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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8175

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Simon Crean has asked Julia Gillard to call a leadership spill on all positions.

He has also said that he will be backing Kevin Rudd and contensting the Deputy Leader.

Are we looking at an early election ?

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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8176

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Julia Gillard has called the spill.

Ballot will me held at 4:30pm
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8185

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......surprised there's not more interest in the 'Big Vent' Steve. Afterall it is about the leadership of the country. Perhaps it will liven up with some blood spilling around 4.30. :evil:
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8187

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Personally I'd be happy if the Governor-General pulled-the-pin on them 1975 style.

But that's unlikely because her son in law is Bill Shorten
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8189

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My read on this is that nobody will challenge her - yet.
Nobody would volunteer to lead their party to slaughter come September; even Rudd is not that stupid.
So many idiots; so few villages.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8190

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Rudd just announced he's not in the running
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8192

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You can stick a fork in them, Labors done.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8196

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Seems that way. Unfortunately I have little confidence in the opposition either.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8200

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mutley wrote:
Unfortunately I have little confidence in the opposition either.

Which explains why we have compulsory voting - nobody would get elected otherwise. :)
So many idiots; so few villages.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8207

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mutley wrote:
Seems that way. Unfortunately I have little confidence in the opposition either.

it's a pity that this election will be contested with neither party arguably having their strongest leader leading. It is plain as day that this government is on the nose but Tony Abbott as PM scares the hell out of me. I really hope that Turnbull stands up and gives everyone a decent alternative, Turnbull is a liberal leader that I could tolerate, Abbott will make me consider taking a working holiday anywhere else but Australia.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8208

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Stefan wrote:
I really hope that Turnbull stands up and gives everyone a decent alternative, Turnbull is a liberal leader that I could tolerate, Abbott will make me consider taking a working holiday anywhere else but Australia.

Turnbull should switch to labor after the election - he can then be their leader in opposition. This love affair with Turnbull is hard to understand - he is a Chardonnay sipping born again millionaire socialist, but is somehow the darling of the left - go figure. I guess after Rudd & Gillard you guys would choose anyone.
Good luck living OS :)
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8216

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I always thought Simon Crean was a touch smarter than to figuratively cover himself in raw meat and swim out with the sharks...
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8221

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So you have a leader that no one wants, a ex-leader who won't lead and potential leader that can't lead his current party but would romp it home for either party. And then you have Abbott who must be laughing all the way into office.

Only swinging voters count at election time, and by god there will be alot of those come election time. If the standard of politics / debate is anything to go by, if you still have your foot firmly placed in either camp, your easily satisfied :woohoo:

We can not afford another hung parliament...that's about all I know, and Rudd is the only one that could make that sort of scenario possible in my mind. For that reason I don't want Rudd, although I'd prefer him over Gillard, however I think Rudd will be leading the Labor party into the next election. But I'd much rather see Julia cut down to size by the public, as her speech yesterday after the so called spill was pathetic. "It's now behind us, and everyone is behind me".....yer right with Knives and Guns in hand. I'm sick of government treating us like fools.

Personally I like Turnbull because he speaks clearly, answers almost all questions put to him (with a answer, rather than a policy speech), and would not allow himself to be bullied by these 'faceless people' that both parties have.

So there you have it, no secrets here. I'm a swinging voter with nobody I want to vote for, but as I was fined for not voting in my local election I might make the trip down to the booth with a VOTE TURNBULL t-shirt on just to further confuse the electorate :silly:
Life is a lesson that some never learn.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8226

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There is word of a 'No confidence vote' whrn parliament returns.

There can be no way Gillard can stay in charge if she has that vote carried our against her. It would really be the LAST chance Labor would have to get somebody else in before an election.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8227

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StrawberryBlonde wrote:
I always thought Simon Crean was a touch smarter than to figuratively cover himself in raw meat and swim out with the sharks...

I would say that Crean is in the top end of the pool when it comes to ranking 'smarts' on the Labor movement & yesterday would have been extraordinary at any other time in our nations history. The parliamentary Labor party today principally consists of union hacks, union executives & lawyers who worked for unions + two dopes who went to Nambour high - no brain surgeons in that bunch.

I am not a member of any political party, but am to the right of centre. Prior to the last election I said that the best thing for the country would have been a majority Lib/Nat result, 2nd best would have been a majority Lab result and that the worst possible result would have been what we got - a minority govt. I recognise that it basically was an impossible task for Gillard to do a good job given the circumstances, but she outdid herself and did an worse job than anyone could have possibly imagined.

The amazing thing for me is that according to the polling 1 in 3 will still vote for Labor - can there possibly be that many people on benefits. Surely the people who consider themselves 'Labor' can see that the offering with Gillard/Rudd/Shorten et al is so far from Ben Chifley it doesn't even bear thinking - they are Labor in name only.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8229

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I don't like to get into the nitty gritty of politics, too many people are too angry about someone's opinion / position.

For the record, I'm a swing voter also, and this years election, if the 2 incumbents remain will be like voting for a Lion or a Hyena, one will come at you and fight family for a feed, the other will just hang around for the scraps laughing it's head off.

I think though, that shit yesterday was staged somehow, the only thing that makes me doubt this is Simon Crean basically put his job on th line which is completely out of poilitical character, these days it is anyway.

The other problem with politics this year, wishing September 14 would bloody hurry up....there goes the footy season :pinch:
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8231

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Despite the single nomination, a vote would still have been interesting. "Abstain" might well have become the new prime minister.
So many idiots; so few villages.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8234

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mr walker wrote:
StrawberryBlonde wrote:
I always thought Simon Crean was a touch smarter than to figuratively cover himself in raw meat and swim out with the sharks...

The amazing thing for me is that according to the polling 1 in 3 will still vote for Labor - can there possibly be that many people on benefits. Surely the people who consider themselves 'Labor' can see that the offering with Gillard/Rudd/Shorten et al is so far from Ben Chifley it doesn't even bear thinking - they are Labor in name only.

I will be choosing the best candidate in the lindsay electorate. Currently that is David Bradbury IMO, regardless of his political affiliations. I have no current political memberships. While Fiona Scott will likely win the seat it will become similar to what we have in the state seat of Mulgoa. Tanya Davies has sold out the people in her seat with the Radioactive waste issue (unfortunately she was getting into her car and driving away from Werrington station this morning when I got to werrington station)

While I have to admit that the current government is pretty hopeless in every sense of the word having a hung parliament meant nothing really was going to be achieved. I cannot see anything but a liberal win (and a big one) at which time Gillard will step down and Shorten will take over. People need to remember that Abbott was one of the architects of work choices and is mega conservative. If you want services or infrastructure you need to really need to reconsider

TONY ABBOTT IN ALL HONESTY SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8273

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I always thought it a toss up between Whitlam and Fraser as our worst ever federal government, but this one takes the cake. Whatever happens come September, I hope that Windsor, Oakshott et al are shown the door.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8279

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Rob Weaver wrote:
Whatever happens come September, I hope that Windsor, Oakshott et al are shown the door.

I like the concept of independent MPs; these current clowns are anything but independent - they should have looked at everything on it's merits, not on party (labor) lines. They must go.
So many idiots; so few villages.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8280

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nkI'm really starting to think we need the option "None of the above" on the ballot paper. If "None of the above" wins the electorate, we hold a new election with only new candidates allowed (I would like to thank Jello Biafra for this idea :P ).

Given the current state of Australian Politics there is a good chance that every electorate would have to be re-contested. It might send a message to the major parties that the voters are no longer satisfied with the tripe they have been dishing up in recent years.
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Labor Leadership Spill 4 years 6 months ago #8304

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Rob Weaver wrote:
I always thought it a toss up between Whitlam and Fraser as our worst ever federal government, but this one takes the cake. Whatever happens come September, I hope that Windsor, Oakshott et al are shown the door.


Couldn’t agree more, they have lost touch with reality and their electorate.
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