[2023] R7 Knights v Panthers - Game Day Thread

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Game Day Information

:rugby_football: Match Newcastle Knights v Penrith Panthers
:stadium: Venue McDonalds Jones Stadium, Newcastle NSW
:clock10: Time Saturday 15th April 2023 5:30pm
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:rugby_football: Other Matches NSWCUP Newcastle Knights v Penrith Panthers 15/4 3:00pm
JFLEGG Newcastle Knights v Penrith Panthers 15/4 12:30pm
:sun_behind_rain_cloud: Weather :sun_behind_small_cloud: Clear 19Ā°C (:cloud_with_rain: Chance of Rain: 12% / :wind_face: Wind: S 10km/h)
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:rugby_football: Telstra Premiership | Full Time

Penrith Panthers 16 Tries Brian Toā€™o, Jaeman Salmon.
Goals Nathan Cleary (3/4) FG Nathan Cleary (2)
Newcastle Knights 15 Tries Tyson Gamble, Tyson Frizell, Phoenix Crossland.
Goals Lachlan Miller (1/3) FG Tyson Gamble (1)

:rugby_football: Knock On Effect NSW Cup | Full Time

Penrith Panthers 48 Tries Tom Jenkins (2), Jesse McLean (2), Jack Cogger, Jack Cole, Eddie Blacker, Ativalu Lisati, John Faiumu.
Goals Jack Cole (4/6), Kurt Falls (2/3)
Newcastle Knights 16 Tries Liam Sutton (2), Oryn Keeley.
Goals Thomas Cant (2/3)

:rugby_football: Jersey Flegg Cup | Full Time

Penrith Panthers 28 Tries Adam Runchel, Luke Philp, Harrison Hassett, Zac Lipowicz, Cody Lawson.
Goals Luke Philp (4/6)
Newcastle Knights 24 Tries Chris Veaā€™ila (2), Declan Pettet, Noah Nailagoliva, Freeman Forsythe.
Goals Mitch Henderson (2/5)

Postgame Media

MATCH REPORT

PRESS CONFERENCE

HIGHLIGHTS

STATISTICS REPORT

FULL MATCH REPLAY

PANTHER PRIDE MOTM VOTING

Team

Telstra Premiership Knock on Effect NSW Cup Jersey Flegg Cup
:rugby_football: Knights v Panthers :rugby_football: Knights v Panthers :rugby_football: Knights v Panthers
:clock3: Saturday 15/4 5:30pm :clock3: Saturday 15/4 3:30pm :clock3: Saturday 15/4 12:30pm
:stadium: McDonald Jones Stadium :stadium: McDonald Jones Stadium :stadium: McDonald Jones Stadium
TEAM
1. Dylan Edwards 1. Isaiah Iongi 1. Liam Ison
2. Sunia Turuva 2. Tom Jenkins :small_red_triangle: 2. Luke Philp
3. Izack Tago 3. Tyrone Peachey 3. Daeon Amituanai
4. Stephen Crichton 4. Jesse Mclean :small_orange_diamond: 4. Sam Lane
5. Brian Toā€™o 5. Daemon Amituanai :small_orange_diamond: 5. Cody Lawson
6. Jarome Luai 6. Jack Cole :small_orange_diamond: 6. Kristian-Li Mai
7. Nathan Cleary Ā© 7. Jack Cogger :small_red_triangle: 7. Ryley Smith
8. Moses Leota 8. Liam Henry 8. Adam Runchel
9. Mitch Kenny 9. Luke Sommerton 9. Connor Mason
10. Matt Eisenhuth 10. Ativalu Lisati :small_orange_diamond: 10. John Sagaga
20. Liam Martin :small_red_triangle: 11. Luke Garner :small_red_triangle: 11. Harrison Hassett
12. Zac Hosking 12. Mavrik Geyer :small_orange_diamond: 12. Aston Warwick
13. Isaah Yeo Ā© 13. Lindsay Smith :small_red_triangle: 13. Zac Lipowicz
INTERCHANGE
14. Soni Luke 14. Kurt Falls :small_orange_diamond: 14. Billy Scott
11. Scott Sorensen :small_orange_diamond: 15. John Faiumu :small_orange_diamond: 15. Peter Taateo
16. Spencer Leniu 16. Eddie Blacker :small_orange_diamond: 16. Riley Wake
17. Jaeman Salmon 17. Matt Stimson 17. Angelis Hotere-Papalii
RESERVES
18. Tyrone Peachey 18. Daeon Amituanai 19. Fletcher Haycock
19. Jack Cogger :small_red_triangle_down: 19. Joe Vaegaau 20. Lleyton Finau
15. Lindsay Smith :small_red_triangle_down:
21. Luke Garner :small_red_triangle_down:
22. Tom Jenkins :small_red_triangle_down:
COACH
HC Ivan Cleary HC Ben Harden HC Jono Rolfe
AC Peter Wallace
AC Ben Garnier

:small_red_triangle::small_red_triangle_down: Promoted/Relegated | :small_orange_diamond: Positional Change

Match Officials

Telstra Premiership K.O.E NSW Cup Jersey Flegg Cup
Referee Peter Gough Matt Noyen Billy Greatbatch
Sideline Official Jon Stone Clayton Wills Clayton Wills
Cameron Paddy Ben Teague Ben Teague
Video Referee Ashley Klein - -

Referee Success Rate

Referee Active Since 2023 Overall Pen. For Pen. Against Ratio
Peter Gough 2016 (0/0) -% (7/11) 63.64% 51.5 56 0.92

:mega: Team Lists and Match Officials have been updated

TELSTRA PREMIERSHIP TEAMLIST

KNOCK ON EFFECT NSW CUP TEAMLIST

JERSEY FLEGG CUP TEAMLIST

With the game against the knights, I donā€™t think we would bother to risk Martins return, unless he needs match fitness.

The question would also be who would we droop after last weeks performance lol

I say let it roll and stick to last weeks squad. They looked good and got the job done.

Rest up Martin for another week and give Garner a run in the reggies.

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Given how far down the list they are, that might be the plan.

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Looks like our fullback is missing!!!


Sorry, couldnā€™t resist when I saw the name. Some of the comments on the police facebook page have been amusing.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Telstra Premiership Late Mail

Panthers coach Ivan Cleary has finalised his side for tonightā€™s clash with Newcastle Knights at McDonald Jones Stadium.

Liam Martin returns to the starting side after recovering from a hamstring injury, with Scott Sorensen shifting to the interchange and Lindsay Smith to 18th man.

A pretty poor first half against a determined Knights side.

Luai and Crighton are woeful to say the least.

Cleary is trying, but a little bit rocks and diamonds.

Leota our best yet again, with Edwards not too far behind.

Hopefully a different side so to speak comes out in the second half.

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Is Luai on the outer with the players after his efforts at Brianā€™s wedding. It seems he runs on the energy of the players and he doesnā€™t have that this year.

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Have I ever said how much I hate golden point?

So glad this one went our way.

Kudos to Cleary for never giving up and the clutch plays. Those couple of seasons with Jimmy certainly continues to pay dividends.

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And also how did that coat hanger on Cleary not lead to a send off - oh thatā€™s right Kline was in the bunker.

NRL - please explain

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:rugby_football: Telstra Premiership | Full Time

Penrith Panthers 16 Tries Brian Toā€™o, Jaeman Salmon.
Goals Nathan Cleary (3/4) FG Nathan Cleary (2)
Newcastle Knights 15 Tries Tyson Gamble, Tyson Frizell, Phoenix Crossland.
Goals Lachlan Miller (1/3) FG Tyson Gamble (1)

TELSTRA PREMIERSHIP MATCH REPORT

:rugby_football: Knock On Effect NSW Cup | Full Time

Penrith Panthers 48 Tries Tom Jenkins (2), Jesse McLean (2), Jack Cogger, Jack Cole, Eddie Blacker, Ativalu Lisati, John Faiumu.
Goals Jack Cole (4/6), Kurt Falls (2/3)
Newcastle Knights 16 Tries Liam Sutton (2), Oryn Keeley.
Goals Thomas Cant (2/3)

KNOCK ON EFFECT NSW CUP MATCH REPORT

:rugby_football: Jersey Flegg Cup | Full Time

Penrith Panthers 28 Tries Adam Runchel, Luke Philp, Harrison Hassett, Zac Lipowicz, Cody Lawson.
Goals Luke Philp (4/6)
Newcastle Knights 24 Tries Chris Veaā€™ila (2), Declan Pettet, Noah Nailagoliva, Freeman Forsythe.
Goals Mitch Henderson (2/5)

JERSEY FLEGG MATCH REPORT

Scrappy game from both teams. At least we won it.

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I usually watch a replay of the game before posting my comments on the match, I decided to forgo the replay in a attempt to maintain my sanity.

Not to discount the Knights effort (I thought they had a good match) but we were dreadful. I think it would be a shorter list mentioning who had a good game against those who didnā€™t.

Nathan Cleary was off his attacking game. Some of those 5th tackle options were questionable at best and plain bonkers at itā€™s worst. You would think that with Newcastle having a fairly young squad, kicking a grubber into goal and having them turn the ball out in goal would have been a better strategy than running the ball and dying with it short of the line.

Jarome Luai wasnā€™t much better with handling errors and discipline. he seemed to lack direction a fair few times and again the 5th tackle options were dreadful.

Soni Luke, while being a bot of a X-Factor out there made some real silly decisions, turned what could have been some scoring opportunities to another turn over.

Liam Martin looked very rusty and lagging behind the rest of the pack, which turned out to be a aggravation of his Hamstring injuryā€¦ probably looking around another month of the sidelines. I was surprised with his late inclusion. I would have though as we had discussed in this very thread they may give him another week off. Turns out this time the armchair coaches were right.

Onto the positivesā€¦

The forward pack deserve a lot of credit for that win. They were gutsy in attack and turned the screws on the Knights in the second half. Only allowing them to score a single point in the dying moments of the game. They got us some prime field position and really put us in a position to win that one, especially in Golden Point. I thought all the forwards had a stellar match and a special mention to Mitch Kenny, who was moved to work in the forwards when Matt Eisenhuth came off in the 20th minute. Then shifted back to Hooker when Soni Luke came off. Played the entire 81 minutes and put in until the final whistle.

The Bench was invaluable this week. I thought we were starting to look a bit flat in go forward late in the second half, but bringing on Scott Sorenson and Spenser Leniu just after the 30 minute mark gave us the push to dominate the final 10 minutes grinding Newcastle to halt (they didnā€™t score a single tray after that moment). Scotty almost got the scores near level with a kick chase, just narrowly missing out.

Also big shout out to Jaeman Salmon. Newcastles line was holding in the second half, and while we stopped the Knights from scoring our attack was still off, we were getting up in the redzone but not getting over the line. Salmon really stepped up and was there to cart it up in attack, which resulted in a 4 pointer to level the game.

While I was critical of him earlier, Nathan Cleary demonstrated why it pays to keep a cool head and stick to the plan. Two clutch field goals to put the Knights awayā€¦ in a game that we had NO right to win based on our overall performance.

On the officiating of the gameā€¦ it was enough to tear my hair out. It was poor, but not to a point where it benefited any sideā€¦ ā€œconsistently inconsistentā€. Just a few point on it though.

The Leniu sin bin ā€˜attemptā€™ was an absolute bone head call. I tried as hard as I could to see what the ref he saw and didnā€™t see anything that would warrant a penalty, yet alone a sin binning. Itā€™s worrying to think that if we did not use a Captains Challenge on that decision (or already expend it), he would be sitting in the sheds in a

The Luai Hair Pull by Tyson Frizell. while I agree with Newcastle Coach Adam Oā€™Brien that it was a poor decision. The replay clearly shows that he was attempting to reach for the jersey, I do not agree with his response to itā€¦ ā€œI should get all my players to grow their hair out so we can take advantageā€. Well there a few things to consider here.

  1. As mentioned in this weeks Referees Media Briefing, the angle the referee had to make a decision it looks like his hair is pulled, Luaiā€™s head pulls back and you can see some hair in his hands. Without further context, I think most people would have given a penaltyā€¦ which brings me to the next point.

  2. The Captains Challenge system exists for a reasonā€¦ and this would have been one of those times to bring it up. A penalty was called, and he had a right to ask for it to be reviewed. He didnā€™t even need to ask the captain, HE WAS THE CAPTAIN. If that was reviewed and all angles were viewed (and not just the limited context the referee had), I am certain that it would have been overturned, it was a unfortunate accident at most.

Carrying on about it post game helps nobody, certainly not your side AFTER you already lost. To that point the officiating was not the reason they lost. Taking the foot off the pedal post half time and 1/4 goal kicking from Miller lost that one.

Cleary high shot. I have no idea what happened here. He was hit high and late. Absurd comments by Andrew Johns made this incident sound much tamer than it was.

ā€œI still thought it was a shame Cleary went down after getting tapped on the chest/chin by Lachlan Fitzgibbon after kicking the field goal to lock the scores in regular time.ā€
Andrew Johns - Sunday Footy Show

Regardlessā€¦ the show was high and late, and should have been ruled as suchā€¦ The referee called time off and send the play for review to the video referee where it was cleared and a field goal was awarded and they moved on as (and I am speculating) that it little effect to the result.

So let me ask thisā€¦ what if he missed? Would there be a penalty awarded then? and if so, then why should it matter in either caseā€¦ itā€™s not LESS of a penalty because he kicked it. In my opinion it should have been awarded. But in the grand scheme of things itā€™s a moot point as Cleary slotted over the winner in Golden Point. But in a nutshell ā€œCONSISTENCY!ā€

UPDATE NRL Referee Head Graham Annesley had confirmed that the referees would be justified awarding the Panthers a 3-Point field goal.

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Thanks, Steve. Thatā€™s another insightful analysis; itā€™s why I come here for a post-game review of the game, and to see an examination that would never occur in the media or on the Panthers own web site.

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Agreed Pete, itā€™s a shame we have lost a few along the way as well.

The sooner i forget that game and put it down to our season shocker, everyone will have one, the better.

Just on the cleary hit, I cannot fathom how he got off. He went for the charge down clearly, both arms up to bloack the ball and come down at the same time after he missed, then as het gets to cleary his right arm lifts and extends to hit him chest and neckā€¦WTF

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